Iran, Russia & China vs. the US, UK & Israel | Will The US & Israel go to War with Iran? Is it Justified in Any Way?

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By hinazille

Will the US go to war with Iran?

The United States of America & Israel (in addition to their allies) have continually threatened Tehran (the capital of the Islamic Republic of Iran) with the "option" of a military strike, based on the falsified & unjust allegation that Iran's nuclear program may include plans of a covert military agenda (against the West and Israel).

Iran has vehemently refuted the allegations, saying that as a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, it most certainly has the right to develop and acquire nuclear technology for peaceful purposes.

In response to the allegations made by the US & Israel,officials in Iran have promised a crushing response to any military strike against the country, clearly warning that any such measure could result in a war that would spread beyond the Middle East, possibly prompting another world war.

This hub explores the reasoning that the US & Israel have put forth to justify their unjustifiable plans of attacking, invading and destabilizing Iran.

Map of The Middle East & Parts of Asia
Map of The Middle East & Parts of Asia

3 questions that need to be answered!

1. Is there any evidence that Iran is developing nuclear weaponry?

2. Even if it was, is Iran the only country 'developing', or even holding, nuclear weapons in the Middle East? How about in the World?

3. Assuming Iran is indeed working on developing nukes, are Israel and US justified in objecting to such an act?

It seems just like yesterday the public, or those who care to know, were hearing about the United States invading Iraq and Afghanistan, and now here we are again - over a decade later - with America intending to occupy Iran in the very near future. The main point to note here is that the US had no valid grounds to invade Afghanistan back in 2001, neither did it have any acceptable reason to take over Iraq back then, and it definitely has no logical, rational, or humane reason to go to war with Iran now.

I think its firstly important to understand the reason the American administration puts forth in justification of it going to war with yet another country with no justifiable, or discernible cause. The US accuses Iran of developing nuclear weapons, and as such it is seen as a threat to the rest of the world.

Keeping this in mind, it is absolutely essential to ask a few questions. After reading numerous articles on this topic, and watching a plethora of news clips (including those by relatively unbiased news stations), I have yet to see these questions addressed by the politicians so dead set on going to war with Iran.

Firstly, is there any evidence that Iran is developing nuclear weaponry?

Secondly, even if it was, is Iran the only country 'developing', or even holding, nuclear weapons in the Middle East? How about in the World?

Thirdly, assuming Iran is indeed working on developing nukes, are Israel and US justified in objecting to such an act?

Pat Buchanan Implicitly States that Going to War with Iran would be a 'Disaster' for Not Just the Middle East, but the Entire World:

International Atomic Energy Agency

The IAEA website gives this explanation of their work across the world:

'... Nuclear experts, radiation specialists, and engineers help countries to meet safety standards at nuclear plants, or to more safely manage and transport radioactive material...'.

Give Your Take

Do you think the US should initiate a war with Iran (third major war in one decade)?

  • Yes, Iran should not develop nuclear weapons.
  • No, if Iran chooses, it has the right to develop nuclear weapons, just like Israel & America have.
  • Under no circumstances should the US go to war with Iran, it is likely to trigger a World War.
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Double Standards | Various countries in the World That Hold Nuclear Weapons

The main reason Obama is posed to go to war with Iran is due to Israels insistence that Iran could potentially be a threat if they possess nuclear weapons. Hence to ensure the 'safety' of the middle east, and by extension the world, it is apparently essential to disarm Iran from its imaginary nuclear weapons.

I use words like 'apparently' and 'imaginary' simply due to the fact that all these allegations put forth by the Obama administration are entirely unfounded, and baseless. After conducting various investigations in 2011, and more in Jan 2012 (with meetings planned for Feb 2012), the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) was forced to admit that Iran did not contain any nuclear weapons (nor did it seem they were developing any).

Furthermore, even if we were to assume that Iran did indeed contain nukes, the way team Obama are pursuing this angle, one would assume that Iran is the only country in the world that is working on nuclear weaponry, right? This is not the case....at all. In fact, not only do other countries in the world possess these weapons, but countries within the middle east (and surrounding areas) also hold nukes!

To make the situation worse, Israel, the single most vocal (whether it be direct or indirect, through America) place in the middle east, actually has the most nukes per capita than any other country.... in the WORLD .

Yes, you read it right! Israel has more nuclear weapons per person than America and Russia combined!!

This leads one to ask, even if Iran did develop nuclear weapons, Israel (and America, as America admittedly develops and utilises nukes) would be the last place in the world to have any logical, justifiable & moral stance against Iran for this reason!

Peter Lavelle on Crosstalk - Is War with Iran Inevitable?

Another point to address is the fact that Korea, Russia, China, Pakistan, Israel, America, the UK & France also have nuclear weapons. Which means that if America or Israel did sincerely have an issue with nukes, they should first and foremost give up their own supply, then should crackdown on every other country with nuclear weapons.

The question still remains, why single out Iran?

It seems that Iran is seen as much more of a threat than any of those other countries. The sad situation is that most of the public (even those that keep up to date on current affairs) are oblivious to the real agendas of the governments, hence pledge their blind support to the administrations, effectively signing away their freedoms & other peoples lives .

Russia & China Support Iran & Will Take Measures to Defend it.

When the US & Israel has initiated wars with other countries in the Middle East in the past, there has not exactly been an out pour of support from neighboring countries, leaving countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Pakistan, etc. completely vulnerable to attack. Iran, however is an entirely different case altogether.

Major General Zhang Zhaozhong, professor from the Chinese National Defense University, specifically outlined that China would not hesitate to protect Iran against a military strike by the US & its allies.

Even if this means the start of the Third World War.

In addition, Russia also pledged its support for Iran & in no uncertain terms warned the US of the destructive path it is intending to take. The Russian Ambassador to the UN (Vitaly Churkin) vehemently criticized any plans of attacking Iran, describing the measure as “a very dangerous scenario” which could lead to a “regional catastrophe.

The Prophet of Islam, Muhammad, said:

“Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an oppressed one."

People asked “O Prophet! It is all right to help him if he is oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an oppressor?”

The Prophet said, “By preventing him from oppressing others.”


{Sahih Bukhari}

Ending Thoughts...

Despite all the reasons why this measure should not be taken by the US & Israel, it seems that the US is putting forth its best efforts to ensure that a military attack on Iran is initiated. The Islamic Republic of Iran & its allies are adamant that any such attack will never be ignored, and it will in fact start a regional war (if not a world war).

The main concern that people overlook with regards to this scenario is that should the Third World War start, its going to be unlike anything ever seen before - this time the major countries involved in the dispute are nuclear armed countries (Russia, US, Israel, etc), which means that entire generations of families can be totally wiped off the face of the Earth, with those surviving being highly likely to have lasting effects for generations to come!

This is a catastrophic event if it is ever allowed to happen, the only way forward is surely to make yourself heard by your governments, and make it clear that this is not a move that you, the people of America, condone or find acceptable. We should all raise awareness of this dangerous game being played without the public's consent, to any and everyone that you can converse with.

In the end all anyone can do is propagate the truth, bearing in mind that we should feel a responsibility to our fellow humans, whether they are in the Middle East or Africa, Australia or Europe.

Additional Perspectives

You can also head over to this discussion page I created for this topic, where you can hear others' views & perspectives on it, and give your take.

Comments

Flickr 3 months ago

interesting hub, thanks for sharing.

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hinazille Hub Author 3 months ago

thank you for the support Flickr! what are your thoughts on this topic?

Flickr 3 months ago

I think that America had no business in starting a war with Iraq, but a lot of people around the world lost family and friends on 9/11 and wanted revenge and that was enough to go to war sadly with Afghanistan. I think we'll find that there are a lot of Muslims and there may be more tensions through Europe then expected. I think it would be a sad travesty to start a war with Iran and it's strange that we don't learn from our mistakes. We supported Iran not that long ago with arms and munition just like we did with Afghanistan and many other countries we ended up going to war with.

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The Finance Hub Level 5 Commenter 3 months ago

Unfortunately, the harsh reality is that we live in a blood thirsty world wide community where everyone is wrong and no one can be right. With that said, war happens it happens all the time all around the world. Let's just hope this one doesn't take a drastic turn! Great hub, voted up, hope you will enjoy my hubs as well!

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hinazille Hub Author 3 months ago

Flickr, i appreciate you taking the time to respond.. i agree with you on some of your points especially when you mention it would be a travesty if this war against Iran was to go ahead & that America had no business stating a war with Iraq...

with regards to the revenge aspect, however, the sad truth is that most americans refuse to accept that the september 11th attacks were in fact false flag, staged attacks carried out by none other than the american government, with the support and encouragement of the corporations and bankers who are running the show behind the scenes...

one of my other hubs, goes through this topic in some detail... let me know what you think of it..

on a separate note, the point you made at the end about America going to war with countries it previously supported, is a recurrent theme. the UK n the US pump leaders with weapons & war artillery, then when those leaders refuse to kow tow to the West's demands, they are suddenly the enemy and the worst dictator the respective country has seen!

really, i think the West needs to step out of conflicts in other countries, and focus on restoring freedoms to their own people... you cant even peacefully protest in the US without the police pepper spraying you, shoving you around, or forcibly removing you from your location!! That surely cant be the epitome of freedom... the same type the US professes to instill in middle eastern countries?

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hinazille Hub Author 3 months ago

The Finance Hub, thanks for the read, and voting it up :) i will be sure to check out your hubs too!

whilst you are right that wars happen all the time, its deeply saddening that we accept it as is... as a movement of people we can ensure that we are not sitting ducks whenever our governments decide they want to cause unrest and instability in other countries, all whilst massacring innocent citizens... we have to make ourselves and others aware and be as vocal as possible to get the message out there...

its never easy, but i think its a responsibility on us all to atleast try and affect things positively.

i mean the US government and the UK spun such a story during and after 9/11 that the freedoms of the people was snatched one by one, right above their heads... now the US is looking set to go into yet ANOTHER unneccessary war, one that can potentially lead to a WORLD WAR... terrifying.

Flickr 3 months ago

It is a terrifying aspect that we could end up in another world war or to the same effect a Vietnam or N. Korea conflict were the US/Allies were essentially fighting China at the same time.

War is a way to make money and that is why the US gets itself involved, I agree completely that war is run through big business. We don't directly go to war with countries like Russia/USSR even though Stalin had how many of his own people killed and or sent to the Gulags during his rule? But we can go to war with Iraq and other third world countries and make it justifiable. No going to war to save the world from conquering Nazi ass holes was ok but going to war for oil really?

One voice can't do much of anything but with hubs like yours hinazille and the spread of many voices eventually we can be heard. And funny we don't stop China from conquering Tibet and imprisoning the monks for their beliefs killing them and destroying such beautiful places of warship.

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hinazille Hub Author 3 months ago

it is indeed a big business and ruse to make money... war profiteers always want the war to go on, because through selling arms and soldiers to both sides of the war they always make too much money.

it really is a sad state of affairs when the value of human life is nominal in comparison to rising oil and other commodities.

i think we all need to continue to educate ourselves, not dig our heads in the sand (we are all guilty of this in some way) & try to make sure our future generations dont think this is an acceptable way of life...

i will be writing more hubs in the coming weeks, so if you follow me i can let you know as i publish another one...

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diogenes Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

One hopes that sanity will prevail (but does it ever?). I have long ago given up on mankind and its capacity to live in a peaceful world. Life is all conflict, one way or another.

In the UK we are snarling at Argentina again; more our size.

But we will follow the Yanks into battle again should they chose; we have little choice really

Bob

Anonymous 3 months ago

I have to disagree. The war with Iraq went on much longer than it should, but it was going to happen one way or another. And how can you possibly say that the U.S. and Israel have no right to oppose Iran's nuclear program? Iran has repeatedly made threats to both Israel and the U.S. and it is their responsibility to protect their people from potential threats. What would you have them do? Wait until the bombs drop and then retaliate so that they can say it is justified?

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hinazille Hub Author 3 months ago

Diogenes, you are certainly right about one thing - it seems britain will support america in yet another unnecessary war! sad, but a reality.

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hinazille Hub Author 3 months ago

Anonymous, how can the US and israel object to Iran having nuclear weapons when they themselves possess nukes?

how can they object to Iran possibly developing nuclear weapons, when israel has more nukes per capita than any other country and they are threatening to go into Iran and take out the nuclear plants???right now???

all the intelligence agencies plus the IAEA have stated that Iran has not been developing nuclear weapons, so now its ok to attack another nation on suspicion of it possibly developing nukes despite the fact that all qualified agencies are suggesting the opposite?

how can it be justified that one country in the middle east is allowed to hold and use nuclear weaponry (israel) but any others that have a nuclear energy program are automatically under suspicion of developing nukes, a fact that is seen as intolerable?

severe case of double standards as usual.

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Zubair Ahmed Level 3 Commenter 3 months ago

Hi Hinasille,

Another very good hub and a very objective review of the case. It high time that people realised this impending attack on Iran and escalation of hostility initiated by the West towards Iran will back fire.

Thy had no viable reason to attack Afghanistan nor Iraq other than the hollywood style stories that they spewed out to bid up the case for WMD in Iraq.

They have tried the same with Iran (the case with assassinating the Saudi idiot in New York) got no where with that half baked story...now they have resorted to killing Physicists in Iran

It is all to do with Power and Oil nothing more!

Thank you for sharing

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hinazille Hub Author 3 months ago

Zubair Ahmed,

Thank you for your encouraging words!

It is very true - people need to realise the truth of what is happening under our very noses.. just today me and my husband were watching RT on youtube, and the sorts of lies those government individuals were telling whilst being interviewed are just outrageous!

a bypasser on the streets of NYC said Ron Paul (the only real sensible candidate for the presidency) is 'too old and looks too weak' to become president! i mean really???! how is that relevant, he is a fit individual with a sound mind - THATS what the people need, not an athletic war-monger!

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A-2pointop 3 months ago

I hope it never comes to the scale decribed in this article. I would think China has too much invested in the US just to protect Iran.

If China chooses to war with us on the side of Iran, then Japan and South Korea would be thrown in. North Korea would attack the South. Austraila would be involved. Saudi Arabia would take our side along with Turkey. Pakistan is not so much a friend to the US, but India would war with them if it got there.

This is a horrific thought. I hope if we do war with Iran, that other nations would show restraint, for all of our sakes. I would prefer everyone just go home and do their dishes.

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hinazille Hub Author 3 months ago

A-2Pointop ... thanks for the read and your comment... i think what we really need to be wishing & striving for is that the US is not heartless nor ruthless enough to go to war with yet another muslim country at the say so of israel.

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SoSyrious Level 1 Commenter 6 weeks ago

I couldn't help but notice the "anonymous" comment. I wouldn't show my face either. LOL!! :D

david robinson 2 weeks ago

Why doesn't america just stay the hell out of everyones business. uk and france, nato aswell!! None of our bloody business. IF someone starts a war then yeah lets go and help but dont go invading countries cos one man is there (osama bin laden) or cos they have loadsa oil and we scared they wont share cos we pissed em off (iraq)!!!

The way I see it, I've lost 2 family members and 3 friends in the last 10 years cos of military service in the middle east, we've spent BILLIONS of pounds over there, and suddenly we are in HUGE recession all of us...oh except the countries that didnt intervene like china etc that are actually doing much better financially now...mmmmmmm seems to me osama bin laden won after all cos he made the usa and allies do exactly what he wanted and broght down their economies :( sad but true. why oh why do we elect such stupid rulers!!!???

ray hill 2 weeks ago

The thing I find most baffling is that so many Israeli's and USA citizens want to see a war with Iran! Do none of them not realise that this is one War that could and - probably would- escalate quite rapidly into an unstoppable 'world conflagration' Do these people who support an attack on Iran ever ponder what may be the outcome if it all goes 'pear shaped' rather quickly?? If it goes Nuclear (and it very well might) There will be hundreds of millions of people 'frazzled'in the blink of an eye sleep tight and think about what the hawks are asking to happen AND FOR WHAT!

Eddie 11 days ago

I suggest you watch this video http://youtu.be/7JFUU9Rhab8

There "may" be another false flag attack at the 2012 Olympics,it might be blamed on Pakistan,or Iran... Also to understand wants happening in a bigger picture, whether your christian or Muslim this is a good site to gain info from. Study it well :) http://www.mysteriousage.com/ but anywho,a very good article and keep up the good work!

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